Hooky talks to Gigwise about 'Fraud Order' and legal battle with former band
Andrew Trendell and Ed Keeble

15:53 10th October 2014

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As the legal battle and war of words between Bernard Sumner and former member Peter Hook wage on, the bassist has spoken out about the 'power' of the songs they wrote together and how their separation has pushed him to write new material.

Watch our video interview with Peter Hook above

Hooky was a founding member of post-punk icons Joy Division before they went on to become New Order following the death of Ian Curtis. He left the band in 2007 and has since been touring their back catalogue of albums in full, as a legal dispute continues and after frontman Bernard Sumner hit out at Hooky in his recent autobiography

Now, Peter Hook has spoken to Gigwise about his legacy, his future and his relationship with his former bandmates. 

He said: "Because of the trouble we're having as New Order, because of the legal problems that I'm still having with the others, it tends to sour everything and make you think it was all shit then you play the stuff and realise 'Oh My God...'

"Even though you hate each other, you did create something absolutely magical. It's nice to get that back, it keeps you going through something very difficult.

Hooky added: "I'm very jealous of them lot, the others, 'Fraud Order', because they're going about doing a new LP and I'm thinking 'ah, you bastards, that's what we (The Light) could be doing - we should be doing that'. I've always had that thing, it was always drummed into me from when we started: keep on going, keep writing, your next song is your best song. 

"We are going to do it, we've started, we're fired up by the others," he laughed. "So thank you Bernard, Stephen and Gillian."

- Watch Peter Hook perform and discuss classic Joy Division and New Order tracks here

Peter Hook and The Light's full upcoming UK and world tour dates are below:

Saturday 25th Teatro Italia, Santiago*
Tuesday 28th La Trastienda, Montevideo*
Wednesday 29th Niceto Club, Buenos Aires*
Friday 31st Clash Club, Sao Paulo*

Sunday 2nd Jose Cuervo Salon, Mexico City**
Tuesday 4th The Mohawk, Austin *
Thursday 6th The Trocadero, Philadelphia*
Friday 7th Irving Plaza, New York *
Saturday 8th Royale, Boston *
Monday 10th Club Soda, Montreal*
Tuesday 11th Danforth Music Hall, Toronto*
Thursday 13th The Magic Bag, Ferndale *
Friday 14th Metro, Chicago *
Saturday 15th Fine Line Music Cafe, Minneapolis*
Monday 17th Venue, Vancouver *
Tuesday 18th Neumos, Seattle*
Thursday 20th Wonder Ballroom, Portland*
Friday 21st Mezzanine, San Francisco *
Saturday 22nd The Fonda Theatre, Los Angeles*
Monday 24th The Glasshouse, Pomona, California #
Tuesday 25th The Roxy, Los Angeles**
Wednesday 26th House Of Blues, San Diego*
Friday 28th The Republik, Honolulu*

Monday 8th The Trades Club, Hebden Bridge **
Tuesday 9th The Trades Club, Hebden Bridge # 
Wednesday 10th The Trades Club, Hebden Bridge *

* Performing Low-Life and Brotherhood
** Performing Unknown Pleasures and Closer
# Performing Movement and Power Corruption and Lies

Below: Joy Division's 12 best tracks, ranked in order of greatness

  • 12. 'The Eternal': This is suggestive of the musical direction that Joy Division were expanding towards. This penultimate track on their second album and shows a mature edge. They introduce keys, and unusual samples to create an other-worldly, but majestic cut.

  • 11. 'A Means To An End': Proof that Peter Hooks cyclical riffs have a trance-like quality that absorbs the listener allowing a meander closer to Ian Curtis' intriguing lyrics.

  • 10.'Twenty Four Hours': This has a desolate feel and evokes a lot of the depression Curtis was experiencing in his life.The music that accompany his deep poetic introspective lyrics is equally moving. (Photo: Kevin Cummins)

  • 9. 'New Dawn Fades': The same descending bass riff is looped throughout the track. Curtis' vocals rise and have a wide atmosphere . He really throws himself into this track. The guitar solo at the end has a majestic Led Zeppelin-esque power.

  • 8. 'Transmission': NME places this as No.20 of greatest indie anthems of all time and it shows the band at their most anthemic and danceable. We can't help but agree.

  • 7. 'Disorder': Taken from the 1979 debut album Unknown Pleasures that was released via Factory Records. This is quintessential listening for anyone into the post punk pioneers.

  • 6. 'Digital': This shows Joy Division at their punkiest. It's Buzzcocks-esque fun with angular riffs that are hard not to imagine a room full of punks losing themselves to and throwing each other around the room.

  • 5. 'Shadowplay': A catchy repetitive bass riff, and occasional flashy solos on the lead guitar interact to create a poignant sound that feels very informed by the post-industrial financial decay of Northern England in the time of Thatcher.

  • 4. 'Isolation': This is a highlight from their second album, Closer. The LP wasn't released until after Curtis passed away. However, it showed the band not succumbing to that difficult second album narrative that so many bands today appear to suffer and ensured they'll be remembered as one of the greatest bands of all time.

  • 3. 'Candidate': A dark and experimental track that evokes Curtis' influence Jim Morrison at his angriest and bluesiest. It's got a slow tempo and has an intensely emotional bleak, Gothic, and psychedelic sound.

  • 2. 'She's Lost Control': Bassist Peter Hook's tendency to play high melodies on the bass informs a lot of Joy Division's sound and he's at his catchiest here. In combination with Curtis' simple lyrics (which document a girl having an epileptic seizure - a condition Curtis himself famously struggled with) it creates a powerful and ominous mood.

  • 1. 'Love Will Tear Us Apart': This is their most well-known and influential song, ranking among Echo And The Bunnymen's 'Killing Moon' as one of the greatest alternative pop songs ever. It's sheer miserably majesty is unparalleled - setting the template for the dizzying heights that alternative pop was capable of reaching. A true masterpiece.

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